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Bob Knaus

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« on: August 28, 2012, 05:45:02 AM »
The Perkins 4-154 was used in the Bobcat 843 skid loader. I found an OEM fresh water pump for $80 from this company:
http://www.loaderpartssource.com/bobcat ... 30541.html

I've ordered one and will post an update once I've installed it. At that price, if it works, everyone can afford a spare.

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2012, 11:23:16 AM »
New pump arrived yesterday, which was quick! Comparing it to the damaged original, all dimensions seem the same. It will be a couple weeks until I get it installed and tested. I'll post the results.

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 08:00:25 PM »
Well, it turns out that these pumps are no longer unobtainium (if they ever were).

Transatlatic Diesel, S&W Diesel and Diesel Specialists, at a minimum, have them new, in stock, ready to ship.  All about $250, +/-

The old PN is obsolete; the new one is U5MW0053

From correspondence:

Skip,

Thank you for your interest in Diesel Specialists, LLC.  the part number you provided has been superseded to a newer part number.  This pump is in stock and can ship out immediately.  You may view pricing, calculate shipping, and even purchase the item you requested by clicking on the following hyperlink:

http://www.perkinspartsdirect.com/Products/83725-u5mw0053.aspx

Again, thank you for your interest and please reply if we may be of further assistance.

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Robert Murphy


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Hi Skip,
The water pump for your engine is still available and your cost is $254.55.
The fuel lines,however are not available. We use 1/4 inch brake line available at the local auto parts store,and a tubing bender to make our own.
                                               Bob Greening,
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S&W Diesel, Inc.

310-835-3155
310-835-0816 fax
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New $ 223.79.
The Fresh water pumps are new from Perkins.

Sheri Alexander
Trans Atlantic Diesel, Inc.
www.tad123.com
(T) 804-642-9296
(F) 804-642-0340
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I'm guessing that I'll have other responders to the 20 or so queries I sent out, but this is a good start.

L8R

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 02:36:15 PM »
Depco is a pump rebuilder in Clearwater fl that has the pumps in stock.  They are a Sherwood and I don't remember the number but they have them. If the perkins and the Westerbeke 154's are the same water pump.  If not Depco will still be the place to ask.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2014, 02:47:35 PM »
I didn't know Sherwood also made Fresh Water Pumps for the Perkins 4-154.

That should assure a ready supply; if a new vendor moves into the market, we won't have to worry about whether Perkins is making them any more...  :lol:

"Transatlatic Diesel, S&W Diesel and Diesel Specialists, at a minimum, have them new, in stock, ready to ship. All about $250, +/-

The old PN is obsolete; the new one is U5MW0053" from my last, 5 weeks ago...

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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2014, 03:27:15 PM »
I don't know if they do either.  But as the engines are vertically identical they may. If your engine was built in the late 70's and early 80's that is.  The basic long block engine for both were built at the British Thornycroft factory in England.  I have a contact there and still get my parts that are still obtainable from there for the Westerbeke.  About 20 to 30 times cheaper.
At least call Depco in Clearwater.  The head guy at the counter used to be the production manager at CSY there in Saint Petes when they were in business. I cannot recall his name at the moment.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2014, 04:12:04 AM »
FYI, we just emailed Depco Pump from halfway around the world, with a question about availability and price of a repair part for our watermaker, and got a reply back with exactly what we needed to know in less than 24 hours.  sales@depcopump.com or phone: (800)446-1656 or (727)446-1656

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2014, 06:10:48 AM »
I purchased one from Perkins in Jacksonville Fl. It comes with a big manifold that you take off and throw away so it must be for another motor. It was $160 and I have it on the motor now and it is working fine.
I tried having a bad day once but I did not like it

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2014, 06:51:07 AM »
Do you have a part number for that item?

Thanks.

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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2014, 10:14:16 AM »
I did not save the part number. You can call over there and tell them it is the water pump for the Perkins 4-154 that Peter Roach purchased. It had the extra manifold that had to be removed.Their phone number is (904) 278-9919
I tried having a bad day once but I did not like it

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2014, 04:21:04 PM »
I've been looking at various Bobcat part suppliers which have what look like a match.

The significant visual difference is that mine had a circlip securing the platen on which the pulley rides.  I can't imagine it being needed if Bobcat doesn't use them, so perhaps that's just a small change in the manufacturing.

The equivalent Bobcat part seems to be 6630541
http://www.loaderpartssource.com/bobcat-843-2000-water-pump-2000f-6630541.html  

Did yours have the circlip attachment?

Thanks.

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2015, 04:42:39 PM »
The link has changed for this fresh water pump.  Here's the new one.  It appears to still be available for around $80 (a deal).  We're just looking at it now.

Bobcat Fresh Water Pump

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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 09:34:40 AM »
Beware.  Perkins modified the impeller design over the years.  The Bobcat water pump I received would have worked, but the impeller was the wrong shape.  The rest of the pump was identical.   The impeller on my pump is more triangular, and the impeller on the pump received is more rectangular.   The pump description is below:

Fits Bobcat Skid Steer Loader(s) 843 (s/n 13001-later)
Replaces Bobcat OEM nos 6599948, 6630541
Engine: Perkins 4.154 Diesel
Includes mounting gasket
With hub

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2017, 12:51:24 PM »
For owners that still have their perkins 4-154 this is a jewel of a place.....
TAD quoted me 2500$ for a rebuild kit not including the head kit ....parts4engines price is 580$
for everything. great pricing and quick shipping from england....Ed