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Swap Meet / Perkins 4.154 parts available
« Last post by SvForever on January 07, 2018, 03:01:30 PM »
Parts in storage near St. Augustine/Jacksonville Fl. I used the heat exchanger. Some gaskets set available. Email
Hull and Rig / Re: External Round Chainplates Design
« Last post by MY TIME on December 25, 2017, 10:22:12 AM »
Unfortunately the answer is no. The bronze rub rail has to be removed first. Then the bolt heads which are a slotted screw head have to be dug out, as they are buried in polyester resin. Also the top bolt is behind the teak trim just below the teak cap rail.
Donald Stengel hull#30 44WO
Hull and Rig / Re: External Round Chainplates Design
« Last post by svsurprise on December 25, 2017, 08:34:47 AM »
Good Morning and Merry Christmas,
A simple question for those who have undertaken the job of upgrading their chainplates.  Is it possible to remove the original chainplates without removing the rub rail?  Are the bolt heads captive or should I expect them to rotate while removing the nuts from inside the hull.
General Discussion / Re: Repository of all things CSY - Dropbox
« Last post by buster108 on December 23, 2017, 11:28:36 AM »
Hi Peter,
Please send me an invite to the dropbox ---

User name - buster108

Thanks, Jim Brotz
Hull and Rig / Re: External Round Chainplates Design
« Last post by Doug Vaughn on December 21, 2017, 06:09:38 PM »
Little Skipper, Thank you for the addition of the chainplate drawings. I am about to undertake the project and have a quote from Fowler Metals in West Palm Beach of $1400 which includes 1/2" 316 SS cut with water jet including the square holes for carriage bolts and bending with a rounding of all edges. The only item not included is polishing which I will do. I do see you have a 10" diameter with a nice curving shape up to the top in 1/2" ss. The Imagine drawings show an 8" diameter with 3/8" ss plate. I had them cut a test plate out of 18ga. material just to get an idea. I'll be going with the 10" diam.
Keep us posted on your progress, I'll do the same.
Swap Meet / Perkins 4-154 Jabsco/Sherwood Raw Water Pump Hat Style Pulley
« Last post by Soggy Geek on December 19, 2017, 12:45:54 AM »
Skip Gundlach posted this on his facebook page.  Not sure if this is a useful bit on the CSY Perkins' (and Dave's not here right now to ask).  Thought I'd pass it on, in case anyone is desperate for something like this.

Vero Beach Free to good home Perkins 4-154 Jabsco/Sherwood Raw Water
Pump Hat Style Pulley

Essentially similar (and this may be the specific part) to this cast iron pulley.

However, before you get all excited:

This pulley had been wobbled-out in a previous life. A friend with a machine shop at his disposal sleeved it for me 12 years ago.

However, it has again wobbled out. Likely the best way to deal with it would be to replace the center, though it could possibly be sleeved again.

Consultation with a machine shop revealed that it was eminently do-able, but would cost a significant portion of the new ones
available, machined from a single billet of aluminum.

Thus, not for me (and I've bought one of those machined jobs) but quite possibly for one of you who has access to the material and machinery to bring it back to useful life.

Free to good home in Vero Beach while we're here (we're looking for a weather window to go to the Bahamas), or wherever else we may be later.

It's such a rare item that I'll not toss it, but it's too heavy to ship cheaply, as well as, frankly, I don't want to mess with it :)

Please, no PMs, nor responding-to-thread.

If you want it, email me.

First come, first served, of course...
Hull and Rig / Re: External Round Chainplates Design
« Last post by LittleSkipper on December 11, 2017, 03:09:34 PM »
I recently worked with Erik at DIGITAL FABRICATION RESIDENCY.  I contracted with Erik to produced CAD files for external chain-plates for the CSY44.  These are the 10" round external plates but look a little different than what has been used on Soggy Paws and Beaujolais.  I put them in the Drop box because they are to big to attach here. Look into Dropbox\CSY Info\CSY 44\Chain Plates

Also, I have quoted waterjet cut 316 SS chain-plates from Alaskan Copper.
1/2” would be $137.35 ea.
3/8 would be $108.94 ea.
2 - 3 days to water jet
This is only waterjet cutting no flathead counter sink,  radius on the edge, polishing, or bend.
Don't forget to add shipping.  That will cost me another $600 from Seattle to Grenada.
General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« Last post by Soggy Geek on December 10, 2017, 07:09:21 PM »
Also, there was another boat dismasted in Venezuela, not sure if same boat, may be different boat...  But a long thread here on mast and rigging information for a CSY.

Good luck!
General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« Last post by Soggy Geek on December 10, 2017, 06:59:19 PM »
Also, a former owner of El Sabor was registered here under the username xpfenech.  Looking through his posts might be useful for you.;area=showposts;u=677

According to the discussions, the boat was dismasted and for sale in Bonaire or Cartagena.  Is this the boat you bought?  Are you going to rename it?  (if so, to what?)

If the number you have is NOT from the back of the boat, then I would suggest that your proper hull number is more likely TXY440160477 (ie, 44 insted of 444).

If you got it for $25K, could be a great deal, if you're handy!

General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« Last post by Soggy Geek on December 10, 2017, 06:44:26 PM »

Here is a long thread on CSY Hull numbers:

Read through it and you will learn a lot about identifying the hull number of your boat.

Based on that number, I believe your boat must be Hull # 16.  I have El Sabor in my database, but with no hull number information, and not much else than it was for sale in Bonaire in 2008. 

Though there was some inconsistencies in the hull numbering system by CSY over the years, the last 4 digits have always been MMYY, representing the month and year that the hull was STARTED.  So that zero in 160 is actually part of 04 (April) of 1977.

That would make your hull number 16.  You can try to confirm this by pulling out some drawers and seeing if there is a number written on the bottom of the drawers.  When CSY was in full production, all the drawers were marked with the number of the hull they were intended for.  However, if yours is #16, then they may not have been in full swing yet.

Hope this helps.

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