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General Discussion / Map of boats
« on: June 13, 2009, 08:24:57 PM »
If everyone thinks it would be helpful we could put up a map of the boats with the owners. I did a sample on Google Maps. You can look at it and add your boat at http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&vps=1&jsv=160h&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=102175070063304738411.00046c3e72dfcda4f64ef. Sonny and I have our boats in there. We are both in Jacksonville Florida. I figured we would use a blue icon for a 44, red icon for a 37, and a green icon for a 33. If the boat is for sale then use the icon without a dot in the middle. If we get a lot of boats entered I will see about replacing the icon with something more fitting.

Technically you should be able to add pictures etc. Let's just get it working and get everyone's opinion. You can read more about Google maps here http://maps.google.com/help/maps/userguide/#placemark

If you are worried about security you can just put your boat anywhere in the city.

Please let me know if you can add your boat. If not I may need to send you an invitation. Send me a message if you have problems.

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General Discussion / What other forums do we want/need... if any...
« on: June 13, 2009, 01:37:15 PM »
What about forums for boat / equipment specific information. For instance we could have ones for

CSY 44

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Interior / Save water
« on: June 13, 2009, 01:28:35 PM »
As cruisers we are always looking at ways to save water. Here is an easy one

On the CSY 44 remove the Delta style shower control and replace it with a tub / shower style bath fixture. Hook the tub outlet to a line that goes back into the water tank. This will allow you to get the hot water flowing through the system without putting several gallons down the drain.

Of course 'real cruisers' take cold showers or suffer through the cold water until the hot water arrives, but we all have guests aboard who for some odd reason really appreciate a hot shower

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General Discussion / Requesting Links for the Links Page
« on: June 13, 2009, 01:21:42 PM »
For the refrigeration page - EZ Kold http://www.e-zkold.com/

They have a box style holding plate that works very well and will actually keep ICE frozen (hard). You can make your own frozen drink by mixing up the drink and putting it in the cold box for @ 30 minutes. The small paper umbrellas are optional.

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Engines and Drive Train / Starting engine with low battery power
« on: June 13, 2009, 01:12:21 PM »
The last post got me thinking about something that I have noodled over ever since I had a hand start Yanmar engine with the pressure relief valves on the top of each cylinder. If the batteries are low, the starter is acting funny, or some other reason the engine just does not want to start; is it possible to pull the compression relief lever to get the engine spinning and then push it back in to start the engine? This would give you some momentum to help you in the starting process.

My question is - can I damage the engine by doing this?


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Engines and Drive Train / Valve adjustment 4-154
« on: June 13, 2009, 01:07:12 PM »
Quote from: Paul Barbour
... the compression makes it tricky to get the piston in the right place ...

Any reason why I

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Interior / counter tops
« on: June 11, 2009, 06:48:10 PM »
I have been planning on undertaking a similar project. My counter tops are an off beige that always looks dirty. Right now I am planning on removing everything from the counter, sanding the counter tops with 120 grit, painting the counter top with a enamel paint, and then putting 8 or so coats of polyurethane on the counter top.

Other things I looked at - doing a wood veneer over the original counter tops (did this on a pervious boat and it looked great - if you decide to go this route call me and I can give you some advice). I would cover the wood veneer with the 2 part system like you see on the top of a bar.

- gluing charts onto the counter top and then covering them with 2 part

- getting a local artist to paint something nautical onto the counter top and then cover it with 2 part.

I will let you know how this works out.

Ps. on the counter top surrounding the ice boxes, I sanded off the ridges on the counter and painted the counter with gel coat. It has held up ok. If I had to do it again I would use awlgrip. I chose beige for this counter top and replaced the top of the ice box lid with laminated oak with the 2 part bar stuff on top - looks great.

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Engines and Drive Train / Valve adjustment 4-154
« on: June 11, 2009, 05:10:29 PM »
Has anyone done a valve adjustment on a Perkins 4-154? Are there any tricks or tips you can pass on for this? I plan on reading the manual next week, however, I thought it would be nice to have some real hands on experience weighing in before I dove into the 'Perkins speak' in the manuals. I have done valves on the car and it is fairly straight froward.

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Systems / Water Tanks on 44 W/O
« on: June 10, 2009, 02:00:06 PM »
Cleaned mine @ 3 months ago. I got a LOT of white lime like substance out of the tank. I used a mop (cut off the handle to fit it in the tank), a wet vac (get all of the crud out), and lots of bleach. I would recommend you change out the tank pick up when you do this. I found the remannce of several older tank pick up fittings inside the tank. I ended up using a plastic through hull for the tank pick up. I used a piece of string to fish the new fitting with 4200 applied on it into the hole.

One thing I did not do and wish I had - the baffle in the tank is free floating between two glassed in guides. It allows a little movement. On a quiet day you can hear it softly banging inside the tank. I would have put a piece of rubber under the tank lid to dampen the movement of the baffle. Oh well maybe in another few years.

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Systems / Water Tank Level Gauge
« on: June 10, 2009, 01:52:47 PM »
The problem I have is when the boat heels the top of the level gauge will be below the top of the tank. I think what I will do it plumb it into the existing tank vent line. I believe these are cross boat vents so they don't have this problem.

I have found some 1/2 polycarbonate tubing (1/4 internal diameter). It will hold 4K PSI and is food grade ($1.69 / foot at McMaster Carr). I am planning on using this with the push on connectors and mount the level gauge to the starboard of the companion way stairs. I will let you know how it works out.

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Systems / Electrical cord CSY 44 WO
« on: June 09, 2009, 11:37:55 AM »
recently I was asked what the best project I had done on my boat and I responded - added a retractable electric cord. Since I am always working on something on the boat I got tired of hauling out and putting away the electrical cord so I installed a retractable electric cord to make preping and cleaning up after each project more manageable.

I mounted the cord inside the port locker in the cockpit above the pantry. I also ran 110V into this area and put in a plug to plug in the retractable electric cord (of course it is ground fault protected). The magic about this location is that (in my boat) there is an opening in the corner of the galley above the trash bin. Now I just reach up in there and grab the electrical cord and pull it out. It knocks off 5 minutes from each project.

A couple of specifics:
I bought the retractable electric cord from Harbor Freight
Make sure you cover the edge of the fiberglass on the opening with something as it is sharp and will cut you / the cord. I used the spine off of one of those clear binders that hold 10 or so pages. These are the ones that you put the papers into the plastic and then slide the binder spine over the edge.
When not in use I tuck the end of the cord up into the space so it is not hanging an inch or two down.

Project is easy and took about an hour.

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Systems / Water Tank Level Gauge
« on: June 04, 2009, 10:07:38 PM »
I have seen a CSY level gauge that is mounted to the starboard side of the companion way stairs. It appears to be two clear tubes that show the level in the tanks. Can anyone give me a description of how this works? Also, does anyone know where I can purchase one of these level gauges?


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Systems / Refrigeration.. How to recharge Adler Barbour Cold Machine
« on: June 02, 2009, 10:23:38 PM »
Harbor Freight sells refrigeration gauges and an evacuation pump (it works with your air compressor). I would suggest tightening the connections slightly, add a little refrigerant, check for bubbles, and see if it works before evacuating the system and weighing the load. Remember the marine refrigeration systems don't take a lot of refrigerant so losing a little will have a big impact.

If it does not work then you can buy the tools and do the complete job.

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Hull and Rig / Staysail Questions
« on: June 02, 2009, 09:06:16 PM »
I love the stay sail with the boom. I often day sail with that and the main. When using the autopilot I can tack the boat by pushing two buttons. Anyone have Gray Poupon?

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This is what I have found works (NOTE - I AM NOT A REFRIGERATION EXPERT!!!)

Tighten all of the connections on the refrigeration lines, Start the system, put a little refrigeration in the system (maybe a second or two), wait five minutes and feel the evaporation plate, if it is cold let it run for @ an hour, if not shoot a little more refrigerant into the system. Your goal should be the entire plate gets cold and @ 4" of the line can be iced. Just keep adding refrigerant @ 1 hour increments until the system is working. You can 'bubble' the connections to see if you have a leak. Most likely the pump quit and you over pressured the system thus losing a little refrigerant.

I am sure there are people with more expertise on this forum.

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