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General Discussion / Re: Hello from a new member
« on: February 10, 2018, 09:57:54 PM »
Welcome to the forum!
So, did you close on your boat?  Give us an update... boat name (original and new, if you're planning on changing it), and where located.

Swap Meet / Perkins 4-154 Jabsco/Sherwood Raw Water Pump Hat Style Pulley
« on: December 19, 2017, 12:45:54 AM »
Skip Gundlach posted this on his facebook page.  Not sure if this is a useful bit on the CSY Perkins' (and Dave's not here right now to ask).  Thought I'd pass it on, in case anyone is desperate for something like this.

Vero Beach Free to good home Perkins 4-154 Jabsco/Sherwood Raw Water
Pump Hat Style Pulley

Essentially similar (and this may be the specific part) to this cast iron pulley.

However, before you get all excited:

This pulley had been wobbled-out in a previous life. A friend with a machine shop at his disposal sleeved it for me 12 years ago.

However, it has again wobbled out. Likely the best way to deal with it would be to replace the center, though it could possibly be sleeved again.

Consultation with a machine shop revealed that it was eminently do-able, but would cost a significant portion of the new ones
available, machined from a single billet of aluminum.

Thus, not for me (and I've bought one of those machined jobs) but quite possibly for one of you who has access to the material and machinery to bring it back to useful life.

Free to good home in Vero Beach while we're here (we're looking for a weather window to go to the Bahamas), or wherever else we may be later.

It's such a rare item that I'll not toss it, but it's too heavy to ship cheaply, as well as, frankly, I don't want to mess with it :)

Please, no PMs, nor responding-to-thread.

If you want it, email me.

First come, first served, of course...

General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« on: December 10, 2017, 07:09:21 PM »
Also, there was another boat dismasted in Venezuela, not sure if same boat, may be different boat...  But a long thread here on mast and rigging information for a CSY.

Good luck!

General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:59:19 PM »
Also, a former owner of El Sabor was registered here under the username xpfenech.  Looking through his posts might be useful for you.;area=showposts;u=677

According to the discussions, the boat was dismasted and for sale in Bonaire or Cartagena.  Is this the boat you bought?  Are you going to rename it?  (if so, to what?)

If the number you have is NOT from the back of the boat, then I would suggest that your proper hull number is more likely TXY440160477 (ie, 44 insted of 444).

If you got it for $25K, could be a great deal, if you're handy!


General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:44:26 PM »

Here is a long thread on CSY Hull numbers:

Read through it and you will learn a lot about identifying the hull number of your boat.

Based on that number, I believe your boat must be Hull # 16.  I have El Sabor in my database, but with no hull number information, and not much else than it was for sale in Bonaire in 2008. 

Though there was some inconsistencies in the hull numbering system by CSY over the years, the last 4 digits have always been MMYY, representing the month and year that the hull was STARTED.  So that zero in 160 is actually part of 04 (April) of 1977.

That would make your hull number 16.  You can try to confirm this by pulling out some drawers and seeing if there is a number written on the bottom of the drawers.  When CSY was in full production, all the drawers were marked with the number of the hull they were intended for.  However, if yours is #16, then they may not have been in full swing yet.

Hope this helps.


General Discussion / Re: Gross tonnage /net tonnage
« on: December 09, 2017, 07:14:58 PM »
Hi Edward, welcome to the group!

Our CSY 44 Walkthrough was 23 Gross 20 Net.  I don't know if there was a difference between the WT and WO's.

The carpenter's certificate from the factory that we have (not for our boat) has the dimensions as 44ft 4 inches.  13ft 4in breadth and 8ft 6in depth (NOT DRAFT, BUT INTERNAL height).  This is what is used to compute the gross and net tons.

Pick a number and run with it!


Hull and Rig / Re: Stay sail traveler parts
« on: November 13, 2017, 04:42:46 PM »
Hi Mike,

I would take a picture of what you are trying to replace (assuming someone here doesn't pop up with one from their garage), and email it to the used marine hardware places (salvage yards) (with some rough dimensions).  We have a partial list here:

A photo here might also get better results, as I can't quite picture what you're looking for. 

I did do a quick search on eBay but didn't come up with anything.  Is it possible that a stop from another manufacturer might fit?


Hull and Rig / Re: Shoal vs Deep Draft
« on: November 06, 2017, 10:19:35 AM »
To put the final response on this.  Since we left Florida in 2007, we cruised almost 40,000 miles across the Pacific in all kinds of weather and sailing conditions.  We were fortunate in choosing our weather conditions (thanks to modern forecasting and modern communications technology), and never had to sail in over 40 knots, and then only for a few hours.  We NEVER felt unsafe in our shoal draft / tall mast CSY 44.

We sold Soggy Paws in 2016, and she was subsequently sailed from the Philippines to Western Australia, where she now resides.

If you plan to cruise in areas where draft is an issue (inland river waters, Bahamas, etc), you really should consider the shoal draft.  If you plan to cruise in areas where draft is not an issue, and heavy weather is normal, the full keel might be a better choice.

Here is a video taken of a CSY 44 Walkthrough (formerly Tackless II, now Kenebec), shoal draft, tall mast, under sail in winds gusting to 40 knots.


General Discussion / Re: Hide the Women and Lock Up the Whiskey!
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:40:08 PM »

I forwarded your request to Peter, with your email address.  Hopefully he will add you to the Dropbox account soon.


General Discussion / Great Video of CSY 44 Under Sail in Heavy Weather
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:17:37 PM »
I posted this in the Swap Meet section, but thought it would get a wider view here...

Here's a YouTube video of a CSY 44 under sail in winds gusting to 40 knots.


Swap Meet / CSY 44 Walkthrough for Sale in Australia
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:08:34 PM »
The former "Tackless II" CSY 44 Walkthrough (one of the last WT's made by the factory) has been put up for sale on the east coast of New Zealand.  If anyone is interested, PM me, I can provide contact info.

Here's a great video by the owner sailing in heavy winds.  Shows you what a CSY is made of.

General Discussion / Re: Hide the Women and Lock Up the Whiskey!
« on: October 30, 2017, 12:12:21 PM »

Congratulations and Welcome Aboard!  It's always heartening to hear when an informed new owner takes possession of a tired old girl.  I hate to see boats just sitting in yards/docks deteriorating!  These are such great boats for cruising, I'm sure you'll love cruising on her, when you've had a chance to bring her back up to cruising form.  The Rio is a great place to do that.


General Discussion / Re: How to Add Yourself to the CSY Map
« on: September 27, 2017, 02:02:30 PM »
Apparently Peter ran out of space on his Google Drive and deleted some stuff.  Apparently one of the things he deleted was the KML file that contained the locations.  He's been trying to recover it, but may not have been successful.  We may just have to start all over again--which may not be that terrible, as I doubt many people have updated their locations in the last 10 years.


Systems / Re: Lightening grounding strip mounting flush or with a gap?
« on: September 27, 2017, 01:59:31 PM »
Ha, ha, that little gap is to let the oysters grow!  (Sez the chief bottom scrubber on Soggy Paws).

Swap Meet / Re: Psyche. Csy 33
« on: September 18, 2017, 06:16:30 AM »

I am so sorry to hear of the loss of Psyche.  What a tragedy to total her, as we know how sturdy a boat she is.  Someone has been looking for a 33 (I forget who, and whether they were on the forum or the CSY Facebook Group, but I will look it up).  Maybe we can put them in touch with the insurance company, so if you get any additional info, please let us know.

I just hope that with so many boats lost, they don't do something drastic like take a chainsaw to her.  It must be a nightmare right now for the insurance companies.  And it ain't over yet!


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